Multi Columns with same completion percentage.

That would then make sense why people would want to keep them separate and be able to toggle them.

https://dev.to/olivier32621338/make-your-product-backlog-speak-the-whole-story-in5

Yea thats what I did, I just wasnt huge on it. I understand the need for different stories on different boards but sometimes its more convenient to have two on the same board. If that makes sense. Esp if you are flipping from hardware and software on a project and need tight coordination between activities and handoffs.

Let me look

The thing is, because lists can be infinitely nested, you can really just use parent tasks like projects.

I mean Terllo just copied Kanban from Lean. And while Trello is dead simple it also left me feeling like something was missing. And that something for me is list and more specifically how Quire is doing it.

Its not perfect but again we are taking a system that was design to be put on a wall and putting into a computer screen. It can be akward. 👍🏻

I feel the boards are to best suited to track WIP and hold, like a bucket, unstarted things such as issues, request, open or upcoming task and lastly archive completion (hopefully).

Maybe a Gantt is what you need?

I wonder if people are using Kanban as GTD @context lists....hmmm

So like one Kanban is @home and another @office or @school ..

???

That must be the use case I'm guessing

Just wanted to bump this, see if you had any thoughts.

@keithhooley I don't see how you are having one board for you and then one for each team without boards in smart project folders ????

You cannot put tasks from other project-folders on one same board. Quire doesn't allow that.

It's starting to sound like you don't use Kanban.

You realize that

1. a Kanban must be attached to a project folder.

2. tasks from other project-folders cannot be added to a Kanban

Right?

Everything that a team needs to do is spread out across several project folders. So this is impossible.

And don’t forget you can tag your items, this can help sort and organize things too

The boards work well for me, ive tried many different apps. Trello and Glo being two of the many (Glo is nice). Quire also seems to dev very quickly, which is a big plus!

There is a few post on dev.to explaining how they use the boards and list to build stories for their product development. I found it pretty insightful.

My dev team uses github projects. I haven’t fully adopted Quire for my project management but will soon.

I think the quire team is doing the right things and many people could learn a thing or two from their dev process.

I went to bed 😉 but yes that’s exactly right. I think theres only so many one person can manage effectively. Some of those 6 boards are owned by others. 👍🏻

@keithhooley ".... Parent tasks like projects..."

This is actually exactly how I use Quire.

Even so a team will need to break their projects into at least two project folders.

Not only that but Quire has specifically stated that they intend for teams to use more than one project folder.

My use case for myself is fine.

I'm saying, Quire is saying one thing and doing another.

I am doubting that they are using their own software.

No I do use Kanban, its the main reason i even looked for an app like this.

Under Projects > Organization > (these are all projects) Personal, Marketing Team, Sales Team, Website Redesign

I do flip between these checking on them, but i mostly stay in my personal board or the website board as im working on that with the team.

Alternatively, you can just use a single Project and creat list like so

Personal Some tasks Marketing Some to-dos Website Redesign A ton of stuff

Everthing now is in one single list. You can have one single board or you can make as many boards as you want and distribute whatever wherever. Everything stays in the single project list but can live on whatever board you want.

Maybe a way to think about their architecture is:

A list item is an entry in the system (like a user) A Kanban board is category/taxonomy to organize You also have the ability to filter with projects

The app could be list 1st no doubt but i think it’s important to think about how relational the features are within the app.

No rules say you have to have a list per Kanban board. My personal sandbox Quire account is a single list with 6 or so Kanbans. Prolly not my favorite methodology. But you can do whatever you want for the most part with how general most things are in the app.

Maybe your request is more of a master Kanban board? Which i can see being useful.

You may have a point there, im not using the smart projects. Im using a single list and multiple boards. My week to week as a manager is different than long development cycles. But if I was working on a longer project with lots of tasks and milestones I would just make a new list and new board to match.

There’s a lot of value in managing a long term project as is in the link above. Personally, i wouldnt want that type of board/list mixed anywhere with anything else I have going on.

In that case I’d actually prefer flipping from list to list, board to board.

Its all list based and not board based. So not sure it exactly helps with boards, but does show you how they use Quire somewhat 🤷

I think when you apply the fundamental principles of Kanban this app is getting it right. I wouldnt know or say that this or that is a make or break for users. Seems like they have a decent user base. 👍🏻

I cant see a smart kanban working unless its extremely basic. Again because one board might have multiple WIP stages, like a sales pipeline. And another might just simply only have one WIP stage... thats just one thing that needs to be navigated.

Instead of using filters I guess I could use Kanban to sort my GTD @ contexts better....hmmm

Well for me i have my personal board, then a board for each team (which i just check to make sure things are getting done), then a board for any big project im an individual contributor on.

Personal board Department board(s) Project board

Helps me keep my to-do’s out of lets say a website redesign project to-do’s and everyone else’s junk out of mine!

If its just me rolling solo for personal use I prolly run a single list, single board and organize my sub tasks under a general parent task. Like so:

Build a shed (parent) Need wood Need nails Need hammer Pay someone else to do this!

Get milk (misc task)

Call John (misc task)

Walk the dog (misc task)

Plant Garden (parent) Need soil Need stakes Need compost Need seeds

I dont know if smart projects are something I personally need. So mybe im not the one to comment on it.

Sorry blasting comments here... i went in and read about smart folders... i think the problem is its a folder that can contain task from many different projects. And each of those projects could have a different kanban board layout from eachother. Thus creating a conflict. So project A is open, wip, complete. Project B is open, wip, review, complete. The logic to figure this out on a smart board is probably pretty complex. Especially considering the completion precentages... I could see this being a PITA to develop intuitively for us users. Just my opinion.

I wouldn’t duplicate anything. Id simplify it. Just because it can live on two boards doesnt mean it has to.

If im writing an article And I wrote them often I’d maybe have an @articles board. If i had a team of editors ect, this board would more so make sense. Or I’d just keep them in my personal board if it where only me ever needing to see it.

If I was writing a white paper or book i might have a temp list and board for that project as its a much bigger undertaking that an article IMO. This could be months to years. Just depends on how granular you want to get.

@keithhooley "... With 6 or so Kanban..."

So you have to constantly toggle between them?!?!!

How are you categorizing them?!??

That is what I'm asking about, people like you who have like 6or so Kanbans and can never see all of them in one place

What is this use case?!?!!

Hi @keithhooley , we don't allow multiple statuses with the same percentage. So fo this case, you would need to set the Follow Up column at 98% (or any other percentages) and move the column to the right side of the Completed status.

@keithhooley

Care to throw a link my way? I'm not finding it. I'm only seeing some posts with general info.

My request was for a workflow video. I need to see their workflow.

How are they getting around not having kanban in smart project Folders!!!?!?!??

Impossible.

So much needs to be fixed for the boards 😕

If I could see the Quire team workflow,

I MIGHT PREFER IT TO MY OWN

I can't believe the Quire team is actually using their own boards to run Quire.

It's apparent that Quire-boards are being developed for a specific use case that only the Quire team understands.

I don't mean that negatively. I say that because I want to see a demo video published by Quire showing how their team is actually using the boards in-house for the Quire project.

I'm 80% sure that Quire team is using software other than Quire for GTD and project planning, parsonal or their team .

Boards still don't work in smart project-folders . How is Quire managing their boards in-house without this?!?!!

You can never see all of your projects together in perspective 0_o

Hmm. The link is not about Kanban use.

When I think of Kanban, I think of Trello, such they are the developers of the idea. But Quire Kanban obviously don't work like Trello ON PURPOSE .

The reason is because they have a SPECIFIC WORKFLOW in mind A SPECIFIC USE CASE which is NOT the Trello user's use case.

Obviously, otherwise there would be VASTLY DIFFERENT features in Kanban.

The problem is Quire Team does not tell anyone their user case and so we CANNOT adopt it.

And I fear when worse THEY DON'T HAVE A USE CASE and even do not use it themselves.

That is the worst case scenario because then it is useless to NO ONE .

What is this use case where people are making twenty different boards and toggling through them?!?!!!

Does this person exist? And why?

Just make one or two smart project boards with everything there.

Even in the Quire blog they say the Kanban is meant for today's tasks BUT everything I need to do today is stretched out on multiple different project folders.

Their use case fits no one.

I cannot wrap my head around the idea of making MULTIPLE boards.

I would then have hundreds of boards for each project 0_o

And then I'd need to be constantly switching between them?!?!

What kind of use case is this?

lol they very well could. I mean it makes sense to use github or whatever dev environment for management. But building a product, id prolly rather start here and then open/move to say github during beta... just offers good integration into the dev environment.