Gantt Chart

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@liad.solenko I Think so

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I am sad to see that the Gantt chart feature is not implemented yet. A good task manager needs task interdependence and priority to be avaialable and easy to check. Quire is the best task manager I have come across, but lacking the Gantt chart is a critical flaw, and I think we have been waiting a while now. If anyone is interested, trello now has this option for free. Although I don't like trello, I am considering changing to it so I can hae this feature.

@peggy i am delegating you the following tasks:

• complete Gantt Chart

Thanks

It is a free tool for now. Give feedback but don't act like a boss. Clickup is great but will make you pay both for timeline and Gantt.

It could be very helpful to be able to set a milestone for a task or a list of tasks with a duration estimation.

If everything in the chart must be set by hand, it won't be much help. That's why small automated details can make a difference.

• Adding a due date and an estimated duration to a task make it appear in the gantt chart.

• If one try to move a tree of tasks, then the full duration adapts with week ends, bank holidays and assignee availability / tasks while the work duration is the same.

• It could be helpful to schedule multiple tasks at the same time with a global duration estimation / due date and the tool make all tasks dependent of the previous one with even durations.

• It could be very useful to have a shared calendar to show things that are not tasks. period of time and events

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@peggy Stop merging.. and start doing !!!

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@guilherme_paredes agreed

@yanrui You’re right, I could be providing some solutions here, and I will take that on board. So if I have some time I will endevor to draw something up.

Having said that, a Gantt chart is a fairly well designed system already. That’s the beauty of them and it should not be up to me(or others) to redesign that for Quire. It works so well already, that’s why we’re all requesting it!!!

On another point, I feel some of the frustration we have is that we’ve heard “we’re looking into it” for a while now. No other updates no schedule or honesty perhaps they just are not looking in to it.

@yanrui we have. it is called gantt chart. It has been promised for a long time.

@yanrui and @rupert however you use the task tree, it is relatively easy apply the gantt chart: after you create the task tree, so you have all the tasks listed, a simple option to add add the predecessor and successor tasks for each individual tasks would create the map necessary for the gantt chart, Add to it a start and duration, at it is done. There are open-source software with gantt charting and tree-tasking, so it is not that difficult.

@yanrui

1 - I see the subtasks in quire as simply a vertical representation of the horizontal ‘predesessor’ representation on Gantt charts. I do not believe that is a large hurdle to overcome. I am basically using subtasks currently as i would on a Gantt chart to track preceding tasks. By giving each subsequent task a due date occurring after the last task, i am in effect creating a linear (vertical) timeline not dissimilar to that of Gantt (horizontal). You might ask why then would i want a Gantt chart and it really has to do with dependencies, and that is the first thing quire should implement. It could be an easy selection against every subtask. 2- I am not sure why quire could not already implement a ‘planned duration’ input. This would be a helpful tool for planning even without Gantt chart capability. As above by giving each subsequent subtask a duedate we could in effect be already creating a duration. Duration = Duedate[task2] - duedate[task1], that is assuming task2 starts at the date task1 ends....Of course we could simply have a start date input which would make the calculation even easier and allow concurrent tasking!

@rupert implementing "planned duration" would be a good start, I totally agree on that. I also think that adding a checkbox named smth like "advanced time planning" in task's properties wouldn't be a hard task to complete. If checked the checkbox would make visible additional "duration" and "start date/time" entry fields. Currently I also use subtasks as predecessors. But there is a potential problem for anyone, who use Gantt charts on a full scale: some crucial tasks are predecessors for several other tasks (which are not subtasks to each other, are on the same level inside the project or in minor cases are even spread across the projects). It still can be done by simply displaying this kind of task as a subtask of an every task, that depends on it, but I don't think it's a neat solution. I feel there should be a better way to visualise it. But if the solution is found, only then Quire would be ready to create a Gantt chart in a click. Because in an entry field "start date/time", which I mentioned earlier, instead of entering a date one could place a reference to a due date of some other task (or a list of tasks).

@guilherme_paredes For developers to rightfully claim that Quire is compatible with Gantt chart they have to make it fully compatible and not just provide "gantt-chart-like" view. Because right after the claim the first new user's request will be to add import of Gantt tasks table into Quire. And that is impossible and xml will not help. Because in Quire "parent" field of a task can now hold only zero or one reference to the parent task, but "predecessor" field in tasks in Gantt method can hold infinite number of references to other tasks. Making it the same in Quire is needed and possible, but leads us to the problem I described before. P.S.: tried to make it short, obviously failed.

@rupert A lot of managing... not a lot of doing

I think there is some misunderstanding here: task trees and gantt charts are planning tools, but they are not used for the same purpose, nor do they aim to convey the same information: task trees are required for you to know how the task families are organised by family, not by urgency nor time sequence; gantt charts are meant to provide the logical sequence in which task have to be completed; it is not meant to view task families by groups. If this is not understood in the developer team, then yes, I agree that making gantt charts can be difficult, but only because the application fields of the different tools has been lost. I do not think anyone is asking quire to be fully compatible with interchangeable gantt chart formats. We are only asking for quire to let us use it also with a gantt chart feature. I speak for myself here, but I have no such desired

@rupert propose a nice solution for displaying multiparented tasks in tree-view. propose a non-confusing way to display due date and task duration at the same time and clear way to request the above data from the user for him to be able to create the charts. save time for developers. help it happen, if it is so crucial.

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It's disappointed that @peggy stop answer to our questions here.. I think that 2 years ago @peggy wrote that Gantt and native Calendar are "around the corner".. I hope that Quire team working on this hard and plan to make us happy in the near days/weeks..

@guilherme_paredes I am more than agree. Quire it's great but it's seems like the development very very slow and the progress is tiny. I am trying now Clickup and hope it will be fine for me

Goodbye. Hello all. Hope my understanding of all this is quite wrong, but I guess Quire hasn´t got what it takes to attract funding and so it´s stalled the way it is until ...well, something happens. Just leaving . Good luck.

@guilherme_paredes I know what it is called. and as I stated earlier, at least 2 problems has to be solved to integrate the charts:

1. Gantt chart requires a task to be able to have several predecessors (in Gantt terms), any of which can or can not be predecessors to any of them. Current representation of tasks (in Quire terms) using tree-like parenting does not allow to vividly present multiparenting outside the Gantt chart, but user has to see that even in a list-view to be able to correctly add and edit the predecessors (outside the chart). That's what I meant by saying "propose a nice way to...", and not just naming the chart type.
2. In Gantt charts one deals with durations of tasks more than with due dates. One of the reasonable questions would be 'When forming a Gantt chart for a task without certain duration, should the app use task's due date, propose the duration is 0 or crash with an error?".

That's why I say that if you have a vision of what it should look like, share it with the dev.team and help them implement it. It's just not that simple. I must confess that I do not have a solution for that design problem ready, only advices. And be sure I am eager to use the Charts inside Quire myself, i.e. I do not state that it is not needed or impossible to implement.

Task tree is even more a task organisation tool, whereas Gantt table (not even a chart yet, but data) is surely a planning tool. I agree. No misunderstanding here. At least for me it's clear. But if your idea is to make tasks' dependencies totally separate from tasks' tree structure, then it's a proposal to think about. May be confusing for users at first but if it turns out to be the only possible workaround, who knows.

Hi all - Quire Timeline is now available. You can switch from List to Timeline view with just one click at the upper right corner of the workspace.

📒 Visit our blog for more details: https://quire.io/blog/p/timeline.html

Please open up a new thread if you have a suggestion for us. Thank you! 😍

@siddhant.bhansali very good question..

@siddhant.bhansali 👍

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@peggy - can we get to know what all your team is working on and on what priority? Sorry if this question appears a bit rude...

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@peggy .. no updates 😞 but can you at least confirm it IS something you are working on?

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